swarm-list Mailing List: Re: Wine Barre Swarm or Colony near Bernal and 680 in Pleasanton

[Gerald Przybylski (gtp000000]

    oh my! 
    It didn't occur to ask about whether the caller sprayed. 
    Possible, I suppose.
    
    I'd suggest drilling a hole above the bottom head to let any water
    drain out before moving the barrel. 
    The atmosphere inside might not be great.
    Keep the barrel upright; don't roll it on the side. 
    
    Bad choice of cavity is one of the main reasons only 70 to 80% of
    swarms in the wild  Fail  to make it to next year.
    When you do eventually get the bees out, you may be able to put your
    finger on the cause of high mortality.
    If the sun was shining down on the bbl, that could have been a
    factor.
    
    When you get it home with the bbl, you may not want to open it up
    until it either dies out or gets obviously healthy. 
    No sense wasting your effort if the colony has a malady that's
    fatal. 
    (it's possible it left the mother hive during a raging case of some
    virus)
    
    You can collect some dead bees according  to the guidelines of
    (either at the callers home or your home)

https://www.ars.usda.gov/northeast-area/beltsville-md-barc/beltsville-agricultural-research-center/bee-research-laboratory/docs/how-to-submit-samples/

Bee Research Laboratory: Beltsville, MD - USDA ARS

May 8, 2023 ... Bee Research Laboratory: Beltsville, MD · Send at least 100 bees and if possible, select bees that are dying or that died recently. · Bees should ...

    Eventually they send you an analysis and you may then get it.
    
    nothing here you couldn't have worked out for yourself.
    
    j

On 7/1/24 1:57 PM, AL COLBY via swarm-list wrote:

I asked about spray, he said that he hadn’t sprayed anything and I didn’t inspect any of the dead. The ones that did fly from the barrel, on average flew a few feet from it and then struggled around on the ground. So what’s left in the barrel, I don’t think will last much longer and definitely not something I’d like to risk with my hives. I figure I’ll move the barrel and let nature take its course

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On Jul 1, 2024, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Cain via swarm-list <swarm-list [at] alamedabees.org> wrote:



If most of the dead bees have their tongues sticking out, then they were sprayed. My guess is the homeowner sprayed them then realized it would take days for them to die, panicked and called us. Or they have regular pest spraying and the bees came in contact with that. 

On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 1:33 PM AL COLBY <malikiguy [at] aol.com> wrote:

If you get this twice my apologies, I replied all to Jerry’s email but I don’t think it went out to the swarm list

I went and looked at the barrel this afternoon, it’s not scouts, it appears more that the swarm that moved in is dying out. The yard is littered with 100’s if not 1000’s of dead bees, the only flight activity appeared to be more bees flying out to die. I cut the hole open and got no reaction from the bees, the bottom was littered with dead bees, up top looked like maybe a softball sized cluster, very little activity and the only comb I could see was just white wax. Far more dead bees than live ones. 

He asked if I could remove the barrel which I will try to do in the next day or two but what does the group make of the swarm? 

Al

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On Jul 1, 2024, at 1:02 PM, Andrew Cain via swarm-list <swarm-list [at] alamedabees.org> wrote:



If Al can't handle it, ill be the backup, although Id prefer someone that needs the bees take it. 

On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 10:07 PM Gerald Przybylski via swarm-list <swarm-list [at] alamedabees.org> wrote:

OK Al, Info to you shortly.


On 6/30/24 9:28 PM, AL COLBY wrote:
> I’m checking with  freind but can probably set it up Tuesday and move it
> Wednesday if they are not in  rush
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 30, 2024, at 9:14 PM, Mimi via swarm-list <swarm-list [at] alamedabees.org> wrote:
>>
>> I want this but hubby said NO to using his Rivian for bee wine barrel transport.  Atlas I don’t have mode of transportation.  😔
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 30, 2024, at 6:41 PM, Gerald Przybylski via swarm-list <swarm-list [at] alamedabees.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> The caller isn't seeing pollen going in.
>>> I suggested he look out for the bees going home at night (scouts) vs staying in the bbl (moved in).
>>>
>>> The bbl can be carted away if a colony HAS moved in.
>>>
>>> Who's interested in the process, and has access to a vehicle to transport it,
>>> and the assistance to move it without tipping it over?

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